Or when hazards are present, it may be even wiser to aim for the opposite edge of the green. [/color] Shafts: True Temper Project X PXi, Wedges: Cobra Trusty Rusty (50, 55), Tour Trusty (60) I am disabled now and dont play at all but i had a spinal fusion and two rods put in my back when i was a teenager. Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. But you also have to add in the slight mishits, the rainy days, and the balls that land in the rough. Does anyone know any of Tiger Woods Trackman data either pitching, irons, 3woods or driver? [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] He defeated Will Zalatoris in a 3-hole playoff to clinch the title for the second time. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 85 S, Irons: Callaway Apex Forged (2021) (4-PW) I would recommend that you go visit a TrackMan certified coach, he/she will be able to help you with your club speed. Finally, course strategy is an improvement that can be made without having to change anything relating to the swing, technique, or other physical items. I don't measure my driver distance. I know I hit the ball a long way though. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ball Speed - 185 mph[/background][/size][/color] By understanding simple averages and probabilities, a golfer can choose the best club and target for each shot. My handicap is 24, but my driving (swing) works well. The following chart shows average handicap versus average club speed. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! Total Distance Efficiency 2.484. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. RJ, What was the actual value of swing speed group 115 mph+, since it shows 0%. Is here any benefit ideas about beginners level women, what you say? Absolutely awesome numbers though. Golf Balls are a Problem, Most Popular Driver on LPGA Tour? Knowing what club to hit based on distance and the safest place to aim based on dispersion tendencies will undoubtedly benefit the golfer. When it comes to looking at how far the pros hit their wedges the stock yardage they hit each club is again obviously only one of the multiple yardages they can hit the most versatile clubs in any players golf bag. On the LPGA Tour the top pros hit their driver an average of 257.7 yards. To find a TrackMan Certified coach, please see our locator: trackmangolf.com/locator. And that was 12 years ago. If it was published in a journal as well, please could you direct me to where I could find it. I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. Couldn't of said it any better myself. Apex Height 112' 11" Not at all. It makes the head look a little rounder, but Vokey has done a great job of disguising this weight distribution at address. Smash Factor 1.475 A look at Brooks Koepkas yardage book below gives us a great insight into this and highlights how many types of shots pros can play with their irons. Ive hit greens from 210 out with a 20 degree hybrid. Well, they say that If you practice more and more youll get better and better. Or should i take control on the distance i have? Im your AMA although Im trending down. Your email address will not be published. You can use our TrackMan Locatortofind your local TrackMan certified and ask for a combine test. Im sure most of them can squeeze out 10 extra yards on every club on this chart. Fan Mail Justin Thomas I still feel these are better players clubs for 15 handicappers or below as they are bladed heads which require you to deliver the club consistently and strike the centre of the face. Driver 6 Iron Brooks Koepka Related Posts Erik Van Rooyen Driver Numbers Sei Young Upgraded core technology takes tee-to-green performance to the next level, New face technologies provide more forgiveness and spin consistency, Designed for golfers with more moderate swing speeds, horny mature is having great time in yttaly's casting, dark haired beauty with big natural boobs" jerk off challenge, she knows how to jump up and down on thick cock, 46, 48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60, 62. How many average golfers drive the ball 250 yards and keep it in the fairway? The data results given in this article are completely skewed. I carry my 8 iron about 158 yards when Im hitting it good (see above). Justin came from 7 strokes back to start the final round at the 2022 PGA Championship which ties the largest final round comeback in PGA Championship history. This is something Butch Harmon has been trying to get Danielle Kang to do for a few years because it simplifies the shot and you can go at the flag more. It was soft in landing rather than quick and checking. TaylorMade Stealth+ 8 w/ PX Handcrafted Prototype EvenFlow Black 65 6.5, TaylorMade SIM ROCKET 14.5 w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 18 Tour Issue w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 3-19 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 4-22 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, Srixon ZX7 6-AW w/ Nippon Modus Tour125 Stiff WebPGA Tour players hit their driver a total of 296.6 yards on average with a carry distance of 284.3 yards according to official 2022 Shotlink data. It's the short game. Dont think they ever release that stuff. Trackman golf terms: What Trackman results mean Club head speed: Club head speed is the speed that the club head is traveling at when it makes impact with the ball. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] Please have a look at the TrackMan locator at this link; https://mytrackman.com/public/locator, Kind regards Niklas Bergdahl Support Manager. Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. The ball shoots from the face and you lose the control of the ball. In my experiences wedges can be the least searched review on YouTube and some of the worst fitting processes. The trend right now with wedge play for all manufacturers is lowering the ball flight on the full shots. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. SM5 53, 59 8.5* Tour Issue 07 Burner // PL Red 65x [/quote] What Irons Do the Pros Use? While golf has given Justin a career he thoroughly enjoys, he knows the life lessons golf can provide. The professionals are going to hit the ball on the screws significantly more often than the AMA. I visited Hillside GC practice ground to have a full custom fitting session with the new SM9s. Oddly, I bet you find that you do NOT score significantly better than your handicap even though the distances are short. There he became one of the storied programs most decorated athletes being named Phil Mickelson Freshman of the Year, Jack Nicklaus Player of the Year, the Haskins Award Winner as the most outstanding player in collegiate and amateur golf, and capped his collegiate career by helping the Crimson Tide win their first National Championship in 2013. Including a personal best one under 35 for nine. The next table uses the approach distances from the previous and calculates the proximity to hole. The Justin Thomas Foundation positively impacts children in need, junior golf, and military families with the intent of helping all achieve their full potential. I guess that's laughable though, right? If length was a determing factor for professional status then we'd have the Wedge players tour and not the Long Drivers tour. God how I loved playing golf. Maybe 126 or 127. Honestly many guys in this small % sort of make every other golfer feel like that . Ball Speed 176.38 Learn how your comment data is processed. G.O.A.T.? Trap draw? That's not Justin, that's Johnny. hard to say for sure who was at fault in the beginning i am 7 handicap play with a friend who is 26-28 i play blue he plays white even when an extra player joins me on the blue he still plays white. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] My average distance was 235-245. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364416375' post='6708959'] Top 50 Player Breakdown, What Irons Do LPGA Players Use? The title would be just as useful as well. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. I don't measure my driver distance. At the Sony Open, Thomas became the youngest player to shoot 59 on the PGA TOUR and broke the TOURs 72-hole scoring record by a stroke. TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley - YouTube 0:00 / 5:10 TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley 158,856 views Feb 26, 2013 See how To fix that we changed to the new wedge with fresh grooves and made it a degree flatter to straighten my flight up. We share your golf passion. It is vital for them to know exactly how far they hit their wedges with a variety of different types of shots because feel is so important from those short distances, especially at the top level of the game, where a yard or two can make the difference between winning or losing a tournament. ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE Theyre familiar and consistent, you wont see Bob Vokey ever designing a wedge with a high toe or full face of grooves. There is CG shift between lofts and there is a progressive hosel length in the wedges to balance out weight distribution. Notice how few balls landed past the target.. Thanks. I have always wanted a push draw and now i can see the light in the tunnel. I cant say I noticed the lower ball flight but this is something that Titleist have worked on gradually for the last few generations. TI Taylormade SIM Ti (15.4) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80X Foley was talking about him hitting 8-9* down when playing his stinger. My full swing with a driver was anout ewual to an average guys 9 iron turn. Does that make sense? [b]XHP 3-Deep (13)- 7.3X @ 43.5 It's good for some laughs. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] I think those numbers are a little high. I shared the dispersion plot with our local club committee who are thinking of installing trackman after redeveloping several holes, and was asked questions along these lines: 1. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. Official driving distance is only measured on two holes per round, which means you might get 50-60 shots in a year. If a 50% greens in regulation (GIR) stat was desired for the AMA, then the approach shot would need to be approximately 140 yards. Either way I don't care. As club speed increases, those golfers tend to have lower handicaps. You're delusional if you think any amateur on WRX that claims to have similar numbers to the longer pros thinks they are also as good as a tour pro. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. As we can again see from Brooks Koepkas yardage book above he has 5 different yardages listed for each of his specialist wedges which highlights just how much distance control the best golfers in the world can exert with their wedges. Can trackman info like the dispersion plot data be projected over a course layout? PING i210 (4i-UW) DG X100 Id estimate the average tour player will hit their basic solid drive between 295-310 under neutral conditions. I don't play professional golf. Launch angle was between 17-22. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021). Going the Distance? get up and down 3 out of the 5 times you miss the green makes all the difference. So just to confirm what we are indeed up against we took a detailed look at just how far the top pros are hitting their clubs. For 6-irons the average is 188 yards, for 7-irons it is 177 yards and 8-irons, 9-irons and pitching wedges go 164, 153 and 141 yards respectively. Justins family and friends also know him as a kindhearted young man who goes out of his way to give back. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. [b]Tiger Woods[/b] You dont need to be depressed your swing speed is high enough to play very good golf. Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: Obviously not. For as long as I can remember Vokey have been the top wedge brand in golf. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] FYI I hit my drive 240-250 he often hits is way past me from the whites. Ping Glide 2.0 (54) DG S400 TI Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. I think it would be awesome to see if any of the numbers change due to the new developments. As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph., The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. Even when playing from the green tees at Torrey Pine South, the AMA is left with 165 yards for his approach shot. I think you wish you hit it further. I'm not going to wear my body down trying to swing that club. PGA, Executive Director, Golf House Kentucky | Kentucky Golf Foundation. It's the short game. I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. Please have a look at this video about Smash Factor. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] Pro Modus 3 Tour 105 S, Wedges: Callaway Jaws (54-10S, 58-10S), Titleist Vokey Design SM6 (62-08M) Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. Due to the large volume of autograph requests, fulfillment of requests is not guaranteed. IF a smaller easier course with less hazards I will play from blue but I am having a ton of fun and scoring between 90 and 97 consistently every time with an average drive of around 220 yards. I blame it on TV coverage. We've enjoyed playing this great game with friends, family and competitors from all over the world for many years. While it would be easy to quietly continue his good deeds, the time is right to establish a foundation that can partner with others to positively impact countless philanthropic organizations and communities, and deliver even more good in the world. :-). The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. The data has been collected through the TrackMan Combine from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world. And as it is highly unlikely even the best pros in the world never want to hit their driver as far as they can so it is clearly the club we are going to get the best idea of the maximum distance they hit the ball. Callaway XR Pro (20) Diamana White 90X The SM9s are an evolution of the Vokeys but not a drastic change, youll notice a difference between these and the SM6s but only a subtle change from the SM8s. ?, G#"% y\$)3(Q|1$xNyt7"g \)hEhH-hFtL+x Im 46 years old and dont think my 95 mph swing speed will increase that dramatically without throwing rhythm off. Carry Efficiency 2.51 You could take my woods and irons and pair it with Phil's wedge play and Stricker's putter and I'd be an average PGA tour player. Shaft: Aldila NV, Irons: Cobra Amp Forged (4-PW) The Fairway Woods Used by the Top 100 PGA Tour Pros, What Irons Do the Pros Use? Short hitter compared to the average WRXer [/quote] On average pros drive the ball a total of 296.6 yards (yds) according to official PGA Shotlink data. Thanks this will help my golf game so much now. [quote name='xmanhockey7' timestamp='1364353356' post='6703825'] People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. Scotty Cameron SS Newport Beach w/ UST Frequency Filter and Rosemark Thorn 1.52 grip. He is giving up 30 yards of total distance off the tee, which makes his approach shots more difficult. It sounds like Sophie has found her new fairway wood Titleist's brand new fairway model is seriously hot, New HydraZip face provides 43% more spin in wet conditions. [/quote] Trackman stats obviously don't mean that much either. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Spin Rate - 2200 rpm[/background][/size][/color] When its hit well I have hit enough times in the 260-270 range so Im probably in that 95 mph swing speed range. Victoria II. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. Top 50 Pros Analysis. Thomas breakout season came in 2016-17 with five of his PGA TOUR wins, including the PGA Championship, 12 top 10 finishes and, ultimately, the FedEx Championship. [/quote] [/quote] Short hitter compared to the average WRXer [/quote] There is no age or nationality restriction for the AMA. Driver: Titleist TSi3 (10 degrees) Ever found a yardage you like? Justins interest in the military was inspired by some of the men and women in uniform he has met over the years. [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. Its Not About the Equipment. Without such a grant, his family would not have been able to follow his passion. 19* SLDR Resuce // Speeder 9.3s WebBut he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. When it comes to talking about distance in golf the easiest and most obvious place to start is of course always with the longest club in the golf bag the driver. I hit the same. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. Flexibility, speed, and knowing how to transfer energy the most effi [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] I think this is very interesting but misleading. The best distance comparison we have for those clubs is therefore the carry distance. I already use the SM8s and having seen the drop off in spin and different performance of my swing (I am less steep at impact these days) I will be changing wedges. Titleist fitting last summer at my home course. Shafts: KBS Tour 125 S+, Wedges: TaylorMade Milled Grind 3 (50-09SB, 54-11SB, 60-08LB) The average drive on tour last year was 289 yards. Sorry for the ramble. |K_ %E_{/{5* Bx2 @ xM6#N Lol, so true.. Assuming however the pros are hitting standard lofted pitching, gap, sand and lob wedges we found the following stock distances for how far the pros hit them. There is a very obvious relationship between these two variables. (Unimpededof course, because we always were able to play during the week). On average, all of the projected distances were 50-70 yards further without the slice. You cannot paste images directly. Apex Height 112' 11" Am I as good as tour pro? I am a 35 year old AMA at a 15. The goals of the Justin Thomas Foundation reflect the altruistic aspirations of the Thomas family. I don't measure my driver distance either. My total yardage for my 7 iron is 190, my ball speed is 119 mph. I seem to have the same speed as pro women and they are playing the same distances that I am but scoring way way lower with a game built from precision over speed. [quote name='eddie_max' timestamp='1364438260' post='6711367'] I suppose you have the biggest and fastest car as well ? [/quote] Very unfortunately most of us are too busy with other things we need to do. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] I went into a facility with Trackman launch monitors and have attached The AMA is far from efficient with his driver. The 12 felt good but the 8 slid through the turf and cushioned the ball off the face. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. FULL GUIDE By Age, Handicap etc. BALL; Chrome Soft X. Titleist 712 CB 4-9, MB PW KBS Tour (HS1X) I wonder what his user name is on WRX.. =t 'BRvGGs.Du="dP0 J/% Np^=+,5I,F5HH#418y\PuQ5) x9.>5?2P5@B$bz.k^OY<>Vf.%,(H8,~f3YzWBpj|!8K^E`$D &XP9gBTl+= Tg{\(k@bW6o9e:&x$hx"o0@:+}UnMD($R*3|>M}18&oA>m Ed&Z):Y{J|'@*bT6|QNbge2RU'02_^^{ In 2019, he launched the Justin Thomas Foundation, aimed to help military families, junior golf and children in need. My experience suggests that this is true. On top of that it drew me feeling like unless I can hit it 250 every time and at least shoot in the low 90s from the Blue I might as well just give golf up. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364404259' post='6707501'] Although early days yet is there a general reason for the different results in club path. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. I don't measure my driver distance. Knowing tee shot distances and iron distances helps with that. Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: There is the same classic stamping on the sole with the BV logo in the middle, SM9 written towards the toe and Vokey Design nearer the heel. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. It is fun and I find that I usually am scoring better than I would say 90% of the guys I play with now, hitting on average longer than 90% and I realize that that is because shooting in the 90s means in golf you are better than most so above average which unless you played since a teenager and have no other life and want to play 4 to 5 days a week or more that is all you can ask for. There is nothing worse than getting the club stuck in the ground at impact. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. Open navigation menu. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021), link to What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? You're delusional if you think any amateur on WRX that claims to have similar numbers to the longer pros thinks they are also as good as a tour pro. Before when I opened the club face I presented too much leading edge, but due to the high bounce and shape with the M grind this doesnt happen. I've had the privilege of playing with and watching tour players in person, so I know what they're capable of. As for his short irons his 8-iron yardage is 165, he hits his 9-iron 150 yards and his pitching wedge 135 yards on average. And that is for the simple reason that pros will hit all manner of a variety of different shots with their irons, especially for their approach shots, and as such, they will hit the same iron a variety of different distances. My problem is the amount of power i have and need to work on half wings. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Grip: SuperStroke, Driver: Titleist 917 D3 (10.5 degrees @12) Justin credits his success on the PGA TOUR to a childhood full of direction, support, and love. Great read with invaluable data and information. Please include a self-addressed envelope with prepaid postage for return. No question - 100%. As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph. On average PGA Tour pros hit a 3-wood a carry distance of 249 yards. With all the new technology that is now available in Drivers since this article came out, do you plan on updating the information. This is something Im finding out at a 14 handicap. By funding programming and fulfilling requests of those in need, they are committed to showing compassion, displaying kindness, and making a difference in the world. [/quote] If I have a front pin with a hard green, I would go at it harder with the shorter club, maybe a 150 yard pitching wedge. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high wrong? The above statements were [i]only[/i] about length. As a whole PGA pros hit their pitching wedge an average carry distance of 141 yards. I also play at a local par 3 course which holds the junior par 3 championship and I have shot 7 under around the par 3 course. #:>PC"ljTTZ!@8[+D py"4]F: }X@`*0gIiF1|fv3cp{c?9EkD!j> Standard 60 lob wedges meanwhile carry 95 to 105 yards on average. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. X-Forged UT (#3- 21)- DG X700 Executive Director, The First Tee of Louisville, Jennifer Helgeson Its unrealistic for most amateurs to break 100 on courses that share the aforementioned conditions, which is what a lot of the courses of today present. 52* & 58* Callaway MD2 // S-300 First we have to determine the average length of the par 4s at your course from the different tees available. That smash factor surprises me a bit. Shafts:KBS Tour 125 S+, Putter: TaylorMade Spider GT However, the vast majority of the time I spend with my students that would fall into the AMA category is spent on working out the kinks in their swing (to help them hit straighter shots more consistently) and helping them with better contact with the golf ball. People that dwell on the fact that other people like to know their distances are funny. When I watch professional events I am always taken aback by how high they hit their driver but how low they hit their wedges. Yes! If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. Do you suppose my distance is bs? Having the ability to hit it the ball as far as they can has nothing to do with me thinking highly of myself. Im a 9 handicap wanting to get into the low single digits. Club Speed 113 mph Ball Speed 166 mph Attack Angle -1 deg Launch Angle 12 deg Spin Rate 2298 rpm 6 0 obj This demonstrates that without changing technique and only changing strategy, the AMA can improve their performance. The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. Tiger Woods Trackman numbers, I thought they were posted on here at one time from an event. I don't play professional golf. May I ask how many of them have 120 mph swing. timestamp='1364355784' post='6704107'] 913 HD I need to know few things before buying. Greater distancethe eternal quest for golfers. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364414933' post='6708795'] Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 75 TX, Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) I would say probably is bs. Commented here a while ago Im actually not sure before I used GPS through my mobile whether I hit it further than I do now. As such, this article will focus on the performance of the average male amateur (AMA). You can see the fuller head at the top of the toe in the lob wedges when the clubs are aligned next to each other, but you can only slightly notice a change in shape at address. However, it is more the fact that golfers are playing courses that are too long relative to club speed and skill level. TI Taylormade SIM (9.0) Tensei CK Pro Orange 70TX any 7 iron data ? What a great read with invaluable data and information. Distance is great. Smash Factor 1.475 Once AMA understands the likely outcomes for various shots, then he can most effectively implement course strategy for the benefit of improving his golf performance. There are three finishes available in SM9: Tour Chrome (matte), Brushed Steel (shiny) and Jet Black (matte). Crazy thing is I hit my 3 wood off the tee about 250 yards. Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. [b]Tiger Woods[/b] The AMA has a reported handicap of 14 or 15. Milled grooves - SM9 sees Titleist use a new saw to cut their grooves, instead of stamping them onto the face. I am writing a dissertation at university and was wondering how you got all your data. endobj I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Taylormade Spider X Chalk SS. In truth, the vast majority of golfers are playing from tees that are too long based on their club speed and skill level. It's good for some laughs. Your previous content has been restored. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. Titleist 913D3 9.5* Diamana D+ 72s Other top articles related to this topic: Graeme Hay is the owner of GolfingFocus.com. Your link has been automatically embedded. My question is my average D is +5.3, 6I is +3.5 and 8I is +2.1. That's what I think. That means the par 4s would average 395 yards. It's good for some laughs. On the LPGA Tour the top women pros carry a 3-wood 195 yards, a 5-wood 185 yards and a 7-wood 174 yards on average. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age.